View Full Version : Everyone with an upgraded TC read this.....
97GSTAT
09-06-2002, 01:51 AM
I was wondering how long it usually takes you to stall to 3000-3500 RPM's? Me and a friend did a little tunning tonigth and my TC was still stalling to only 2500. Well we decided to brake torque longer, and I finally got to 3000 RPM's. But it took me like 8-10 freaking seconds to get there! I don't like holding a stall that long. And I was wondering if this sounds a little weird. By the way, we leaned out the lower RPM's to see if that helps. I guess it might of, but I held the stall longer after we did that. Any input?
97GSTAT
09-06-2002, 10:22 PM
Ok no one has any input on this?
I read your reply from the AT digest earlier. Well you do have the super 16G. I heard from other people that this turbo is really laggy, and that it won't hit boost untill 4000rpm. If your only making 5psi and barely reaching 3000rpm then it sounds like your not making enough torque to reach 4000rpm. On a hot day I'm having trouble getting over 3000rpm with my new Cams.
97GSTAT
09-08-2002, 01:01 PM
See from a dead stand still I hit full boost around 3400 RPM's. To me that's not that bad. And I was making only 5 psi at 2500 RPM's. And I usually hit around 10 psi around 3000 RPM, from a dead stand still. That's why I don't understand why this is doing this. Hel if someone can get 12psi with a Green at the line, then I should easily be able ot do the same.
That's about where I hit full boost with my new cams too. I think then you should be able to get it up higher. It sounds like it could be the TC but there's no way to be fully sure. I think the only real good way to find out is to just bolt on your old turbo. With your old turbo it should easily powerbrake to close to 4000rpm. That's if your older turbo was the stock T25. Does it powerbrake higher when it's cold out?
97GSTAT
09-08-2002, 08:39 PM
Well the one time I got it to 3000 RPm's it was night and some what cool out. But I also held it alot longer to get it there. I think I'm going to call Level 10 tomorrow and talk to them about this. I've been fighting stuff over my tranny all summer and it's really getting old now. Thanks again for your input.
97GSTAT
09-09-2002, 01:39 AM
Well tonight we installed some 625's and did more tunning. And after that I brake torqued to around 2800-3000, and made 10 psi. This is closer to what I was thinking that would happen. But I'm still going to call Level 10.
If you can get 10psi by 3000rpm it should go all the way up to 3700rpm. I think by that point it should have enough torque to go all the way up there.
97GSTAT
09-09-2002, 10:53 AM
Well I had to hold a little longer then I'd like to still. And yeah it would have kept stalling if I'd let it. It just seems like I have to hold the brake torque pretty long. But maybe that's the way it's suppose to be. So for right now I think 10 psi is alright. Besides I was spinning when I launched. I'll just have to keep playing wiht it and see if I can get it to stall better.
Mine is the exact same way. Takes way too long to get it to move above 3000rpm. It sucks because it used to powerbrake so much quicker with the stock cams. I was really frustrated last night so I decided to play with it for while. I leaned out my low preaty good when I got the cams and it helped my part throtle torque and spool up. But last night I leaned it out a bit more in the low throtle and quite a bit more in the high trotle. I leave 1000rpm somewhat rich otherwise it stalls there. But on 2,3k I lean it out to .89v and 4k to about .90. It runs a bit leaner when powerbraking anyway. I thought it'd be too lean but it helped my spool up significantly while powerbraking. Now as soon as it gets to 3000rpm it starts to rapidly want to jump to 4k instead of just slowly rise.
It's much better, but I still think I need a better TC. This one didn't improve my 60ft times at all comapred to my stock one. The stock one stalls at 2100 this one stalls at around 3000rpm from what Tony at dunrite said. But they both would powerbrake to exactly the same level. I can tell one has a higher stall but it's not sufficient not even for my small T28. I need something with about a 3500 to 4000rpm stall. That way I wouldn't have to wait forever to reach the engine torque curve.
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