DSM Wiring Information

[alanseijas]

I have had a couple of requests for a wire sheet on the '95 Eclipse, so here it is:

12v: white positive at ignition harness
ignition: black/white positive at ignition harness
accessory: blue/black positive at ignition harness
starter: black/red positive at ignition harness
tach: blue/black AC at coil pack (2cyl signal)
lock: brown/white negative at relays in center console
unlock: brown negative at relays in center console
doorpin: red/green negative at courtesy light under dash
trunkpin: red/green negative in driver's kick panel
factory arm: green/yellow negative in driver's kick panel
factory disarm: green/white negative in driver's kick panel
brakeswitch: green positive at switch above brake pedal
parking lights: green/white positive in driver's kick panel
hand brake: yellow/black negative at handbrake or behind instument cluster
horn: green/red negative at steering column
driver window up: green/red reverse polaritiy at main window switch
driver window down: green/blue reverse polarity at main window switch
passenger window up: brown/yellow reverse polarity at main window switch
passenger window down: green/yellow reverse polarity at main window switch
headlights: red negative at light switch harness
reverse lights: red/blue positive in driver's kick panel
dimmer: green/white positive at dimmer switch harness
key sense: green positive at ignition harness

Be sure to use a computer safe test light, and TEST each wire to be sure it's the correct one; and that the polarity is right. I take no responsibilty for any incorrect information and/or faulty wiring done by any installer, but this is the latest information my program supplies. Good luck, take your time, and have fun!

[SeatownGST]

You know what, this is such damn good information I'm gonna bump this thread up for no other reason.

Another great reminder why people should SEARCH this board, a lot of great info !

I will check this against my 1998 soon, see what is the same and what is different.

Good post, thanks !

[alanseijas]

The differences on the 1998 Eclipse are minimal, but consist of:

tach: AC on the 2.0 non turbo engine, tach is brown or brown/blue at coil on top of the engine(2 cyl. signal) or white at pin 73 of the PCM on the left side of the engine compartment. On both the 2.0L turbo and the 2.4L engines, the tach is white at the power transistor on top of the engine.

hoodpin: blue/black at junction/fuseblock above driver kick panel

driver window down: green/black reverse polarity at main window switch

The rest is identical.

[greenstreak]

Great info! I am going to make this a sticky.

Thanks!

[machinis]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
You must be the GREAT GOD who has fallen from the skies! Yesterday, I was trying to find the meanings of the colors for the igntion harness; today, I bump into this thread, and every single detail I need to get my used HKS Type IV timer installed, it's all here!!! Thanks for the info.

[James92TSi]

I don't see a listing for the Ignition2 wire (powers radiator fans and HVAC). Here are the wire colors for the 2G key switch:

WHITE (Constant +12V)
BLUE/BLACK (Accessory)
BLACK/WHITE (IGN1)
BLUE (IGN2)
BLACK/RED (Starter)

Looks like everything else is correct, but you need to know IGN2 so you can install a turbo timer correctly... turbo timer outputs should go to IGN1 and IGN2 circuits.

[machinis]

Now it's even making more sense. I guess I have to get under the dash one more time. I got the damn thing to work, but my radiator fan would shut off when the key is taken out. PEACE!!
PS: Thanks James92TSi...This site is OFF DA HOOK!!

[talontsi01]

i wish someone would post that for 1G's

[alanseijas]

It is almost identical. Give me your year, and I'll give you the differences.

[eyebrowski]

oh my! this is awesome. 90' eclipse

[James92TSi]

You want 1G, you got it.

Constant 12V+: White (Ignition Switch Harness)
Starter: Black/Yellow (Ignition Switch Harness)
Ignition: Black/White (Ignition Switch Harness)
Accessory: Blue/Black (Ignition Switch Harness)
Tach: White on Ignition Power Transistor, or Pin 21 at ECU
Brake Switch: Green (+) (Brake Switch)
Trunk Pin: n/a, works with Dome Light
Parking Lights: Green/White (+) (Above Hood Release Gray Connector)
Head Lamp: Red (-) (Switch)
Hood Pin: n/a
Factory Disarm: n/a
Door Trigger: Green/Red (-) (Above Hood Release Gray Connector)
Door Lock: Brown/Blue (-) (Door Lock Relays above Clutch Pedal)
Door Unlock: Brown/White (-) (Door Lock Relays above Clutch Pedal)
Horn Wire: Green/Black (-) (Steering Column)
Windows Up: LF=Red, RF=Red/Blue,
Windows Down: LF=Green, RF=Black/Blue

[alanseijas]

Thanks James! My program shows some differences, so I will list what I have. Be sure to test with a computer safe test light, everybody.

My program does not list '90 Eclipse, but this is for a '90 Talon:

12v: white positive at ignition harness
ignition: black/white positive at ignition harness
accessory: blue/black positive at ignition harness
starter: black/red positive at ignition harness
tach: white at front of engine
lock: brown/white negative left of steering column
unlock: brown negative left of steering column
doorpin: red/green negative at courtesy light under dash
trunkpin: red/green negative in driver's kick panel
factory arm: green/yellow negative in driver's kick panel
factory disarm: green/white negative in driver's kick panel
brakeswitch: green positive at switch above brake pedal
parking lights: green/white positive at fusepanel
hand brake: yellow/black negative at handbrake or behind instument cluster
horn: green/red or green/black negative at steering column
driver window up: green/red reverse polaritiy at main window switch
driver window down: green/blue reverse polarity at main window switch
passenger window up: green/yellow reverse polarity at main window switch
passenger window down: brown/yellow reverse polarity at main window switch
headlights: red negative at light switch harness
reverse lights: red/blue positive in driver's kick panel
dimmer: green/white positive at dimmer switch harness
key sense: green/yellow negative at ignition harness

[talontsi01]

cool. mine matches up to the talon. suprise suprise

[talontsi01]

Yo alanseijas, can you check and see on your program if a 90 talon is any different than a 92 talon. :hail: thanks

[alanseijas]

Originally posted by talontsi01
Yo alanseijas, can you check and see on your program if a 90 talon is any different than a 92 talon. :hail: thanks

The only difference is the location of the tach wire on the '91 and '92 Talon. It is listed as being at coil on engine.

[talontsi01]

alright, thanks

[James92TSi]

Actually I screwed up and just pulled that out of the database without proof-reading it. There was one listing for 90-92 Talon, which is what I gave. There is a mistake on the ignition switch harness on both Alan's and my charts. We went through the same issue when we posted the 2G charts... doh! :D The mistake is on the ignition switch wiring:

- The blue/black wire is Ignition 2 (power to HVAC and radiator fans), not Accessory.

- Accessory (radio, rear defrost, wipers) is solid blue.

So the correct ignition switch wiring is:

Constant 12V+: White
Starter: Black/Yellow
Ignition: Black/White
Ignition2: Blue/Black
Accessory: Blue

That is verified on my car (I went back and looked at my notes from when I did my alarm). Also note that sometimes they used a solid black wire for +12v constant instead of solid white. I've seen it both ways on 1Gs, so be aware (this is why you test your wires before installing).

For RPM signal, the database said white at the coil, but you can pull RPM signal from Pin 21 of the ECU much more easily. I changed it on my chart since I had DSM-specific knowledge. I'm not sure about the RPM wire under the hood on 90s, but on 91-94 (and 2Gs too) RPM is the white wire at the ignition power transistor (under the intake manifold, driver side). I'd rather get the RPM signal from the ECU than under the hood though, since it's one less wire to put through the firewall.

There are 3 plugs on the ECU (small, medium, large). Pin 21 is on the large plug, bottom row, 4th pin from the right. It will be pin 21 for all 1Gs, including 90.

ECU pinout: http://www.vfaq.com/mods/ecu-harness-1G.html

And like Alan pointed out, always verify your wires with a computer-safe test light or multimeter before installing. There are a few differences between our charts because there's more than one way to get to these wires. Use your judgement to figure out which way works best for your install, and test your wires before installing.

[talontsi01]

i just bought the harness.

thanks for the info though, it helped me in installing my gauges.

:rockon:

[tekky_98_TSi]

Just found a nice site with all this info... just contributing what's not here already :scholar:

Security Information
Constant 12V+ White Ignition Switch Harness
Starter Black/Yellow Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition Black/White Ignition Switch Harness
Accessory Blue/Black Ignition Switch Harness
Tach White/Black Multi Coil Pack
Brake Switch Green Brake Switch
Trunk Pin n/a Works with Dome Light
Parking Lights Green/White White Conn Rear of Fuse Panel
Head Lamp Red (-) Light Switch
Hood Pin n/a
Factory Disarm n/a
Door Trigger Tan (-) Inside Driver's Door,Dark Blue all other Doors
Door Lock Brown/Blue (-) Driver's Kick at Door Lock Relays
Door Unlock Brown/White (-)
Horn Wire Green/Black (-) Steering Column, use Relay

Cruise Information
Constant 12V+ White Ignition Switch Harness or Use Hot Side of Brake
Switched 12V+ Black/White Ignition Switch Harness
Ground Use Chassis Near Cruise Control Module
Hot Side of Brake n/a Brake Switch
Cold Side of Brake Green Brake Switch
Tach White/Black Multi Coil Pack
VSS Lead Yellow/White Passenger's Console Largest Connector on ECM
Pulses Per Mile 4000 PPM

Stereo Information
Constant 12V+ Red/Black
Switched 12V+ Blue
Ground Chassis
Illumination Green/White
Dimmer Black/Yellow
Antenna Trigger White/Black
Antenna Left Rear
Front Speakers 4" Dash
Left Front (+) White/Blue
Left Front (-) Black/Blue
Right Front (+) White/Red
Right Front (-) Black/Red
Rear Speakers 6 1/2" Side Panels
Left Rear (+) Yellow/Blue
Left Rear (-) Gray/Blue
Right Rear (+) Yellow/Red
Right Rear (-) Gray/Red


enjoy :)

[tekky_98_TSi]

Security Information
Constant 12V+ White or White/Black Ignition Switch Harness
Starter Black/Yellow Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition Black/White Ignition Switch Harness
Accessory Blue/Red Ignition Switch Harness
Tach Blue/Black Multi Coil Pack, 2 Cylinder Setting
Brake Switch Green Brake Switch
Trunk Pin n/a Works with Dome Light
Parking Lights Black/Green Above Hood Release Gray Connector
Head Lamp Red (-) Steering Column
Hood Pin n/a
Factory Disarm Brown/White(-) Driver's Kick Panel
Door Trigger Green/Red (-) Above Hood Release Gray Connector
Door Lock Brown/Blue (-) Driver's Kick at Door Lock Relays
Door Unlock Brown/White (-)
Horn Wire Green/Black (-) Steering Column, use Relay

Cruise Information
Constant 12V+ White or White/Black Ignition Switch Harness or Use Hot Side of Brake
Switched 12V+ Black/White Ignition Switch Harness
Ground Use Chassis Near Cruise Control Module
Hot Side of Brake n/a Brake Switch
Cold Side of Brake Green Brake Switch
Tach Blue/Black Multi Coil Pack, 2 Cylinder Setting
VSS Lead Yellow/White Passenger's Console Largest Connector on ECM
Pulses Per Mile 4000 PPM

Stereo Information
see above post regarding 90-93's, they are completely identical on the stereos

And yes I realize some of this is redundant from the 90-93 but there was no simple way of putting them in one post w/o seeming rather confusing and looking quite sloppy

enjoy

[tekky_98_TSi]

Yah I know you have this up top Alan, but in the interest of consolidating everything to one post (I think some of these arent covered in your original post but I'm keeping to the original format from the 1gs)

Security Information
Constant 12V+ White Ignition Switch Harness
Starter Black/Red Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition Black/White Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition 2 Blue Ignition Switch Harness
Accessory Blue/Black Ignition Switch Harness
Tach Black/Blue Or Blue/Black Coil Pack (2 Cylinder Setting)
Neutral Safety Wire Black/White (-) PCM behind Center Console
Brake Switch Green Brake Switch
Trunk Pin Red/Green Silver Driver's Kick Panel
Parking Lights Green/White (+) Driver's Kick Panel or Fuse Panel
Head Lamp Red (-) Light Switch
Factory Disarm Green/White (-) Driver's Kick Panel
Door Trigger Red/Green (-) Courtesy Light or Driver's Kick Panel
Door Lock Brown/White (-) Behind Fuse Panel or 20 Pin Connector High Driver's Kick Panel
Door Unlock Brown (-)
Driver's Lock Blue/Black Driver's Kick Panel
Driver's Unlock Blue/Red Driver's Kick Panel
Passenger Unlock Blue/Red Passenger's Kick Panel
Horn Wire Green/Red (-) Steering Column
Windows Up LF=Green/Red, RF=Brown/Yellow
Windows Down LF=Green/Black, RF=Green/Yellow

Cruise Information
Constant 12V+ White Ignition Switch Harness or Use Hot Side of Brake
Switched 12V+ Black/White Ignition Switch Harness
Ground Use Chassis Near Cruise Control Module
Hot Side of Brake n/a Brake Switch
Cold Side of Brake Green Brake Switch
Tach Black/Blue Or Blue/Black Coil Pack (2 Cylinder Setting)
VSS Lead Yellow/White Driver's Side of Console
Pulses Per Mile 4000 PPM

Stereo Information
Constant 12V+ Red/Black
Switched 12V+ Blue
Ground Chassis
Illumination Green/White
Dimmer Black/Yellow
Antenna Trigger White/Black
Antenna Left Rear
Front Speakers 5 1/4" Doors
Left Front (+) Black/White
Left Front (-) Black
Right Front (+) Black/White
Right Front (-) Black
Rear Speakers 6" x 9" Side Panels
Left Rear (+) Yellow/Blue
Left Rear (-) Gray/Blue
Right Rear (+) Yellow/Red
Right Rear (-) Gray/Red

enjoy

[tekky_98_TSi]

NOTE: this does not include 98, refer to below post for 98 information, some varied from 97 to 98... yes Mitsu did crazy things...

Security Information
Constant 12V+ White Ignition Switch Harness
Starter Black/Red Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition Black/White Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition 2 Blue Ignition Switch Harness
Accessory Blue/Black Ignition Switch Harness
Tach Black/Blue Or Blue/Black Coil Pack 2 Cylinder Setting
Neutral Safety Wire Black/White (-) PCM behind Center Console
Brake Switch Green Brake Switch
Trunk Pin Red/Green Driver's Running Board
Parking Lights Green/White (+) Driver's Kick Panel or Fuse Panel
Head Lamp Red (-) Light Switch
Factory Disarm Red/Green (-) ECU Passenger's Kick Panel
Door Trigger Red/Green (-) Courtesy Light or Driver's Kick Panel
Door Lock Brown (-) Behind Fuse Panel or 20 Pin Connector High Driver's Kick Panel
Door Unlock Brown/White (-)
Driver's Lock Blue/Black Driver's Kick Panel
Driver's Unlock Blue/Red Driver's Kick Panel
Passenger Unlock Blue/Red Passenger's Kick Panel
Horn Wire Green/Red (-) Steering Column
Windows Up LF=Green/Red, RF=Brown/Yellow
Windows Down LF=Green/Black, RF=Green/Yellow

Cruise Information
Constant 12V+ White Ignition Switch Harness or Use Hot Side of Brake
Switched 12V+ Black/White Ignition Switch Harness
Ground Use Chassis Near Cruise Control Module
Hot Side of Brake n/a Brake Switch
Cold Side of Brake Green Brake Switch
Tach Black/Blue Or Blue/Black Coil Pack 2 Cylinder Setting
VSS Lead Yellow/White Driver's Side of Console
Pulses Per Mile 4000 PPM

Stereo Information
Refer to above post on 95/96 DSM's, the stereo wiring is identical

enjoy

[tekky_98_TSi]

Security Information
Constant 12V+ White Ignition Switch Harness
Starter Black/Red Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition Black/White Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition 2 Blue Ignition Switch Harness
Accessory Blue/Black Ignition Switch Harness
Tach Black/Blue Or Blue/Black Coil Pack 2 Cylinder Setting
Neutral Safety Wire Black/White (-) PCM behind Center Console
Brake Switch Green Brake Switch
Trunk Pin Red/Green Driver's Running Board
Parking Lights Green/White (+) Driver's Kick Panel or Fuse Panel
Head Lamp Red (-) Light Switch
Factory Disarm Red/Green (-) ECU Passenger's Kick Panel
Door Trigger Red/Green (-) Courtesy Light or Driver's Kick Panel
Door Lock Brown/White (-) Behind Fuse Panel or 20 Pin Connector High Driver's Kick Panel
Door Unlock Brown (-)
Driver's Lock Blue/Black Driver's Kick Panel
Driver's Unlock Blue/Red Driver's Kick Panel
Passenger Unlock Blue/Red Passenger's Kick Panel
Horn Wire Green/Red (-) Steering Column
Windows Up LF=Green/Red, RF=Brown/Yellow
Windows Down LF=Green/Black, RF=Green/Yellow

Cruise Information
Refer to above post concerning 97 DSM wiring, the cruise wiring are identical between these two

Stereo Information
Refer to above post concerning 95/96 DSM wiring, the stereo wiring is identical between these

enjoy

[talontsi01]

the layouts are appreciated

[tekky_98_TSi]

Originally posted by talontsi01
the layouts are appreciated

heh no problem nothing better to do last night at work... I was the one guy having to sit out front incase the phone rang... no PS2 for me last night ;)

[CornerHard]

So I take it the 98 has a hood pin wire (blue/black)? If I wanted to combine the hood pin, door pin, and trunk pin, so that if any one of them was triggered, my alarm would go off, how would I go about doing that?

[alanseijas]

Aftermarket alarms (if it is a quality one) will have separate inputs for all of those triggers, and will even tell you which has been violated.

[CornerHard]

I have a DEI Hornet alarm with a door trigger input and a "multiplex" trigger input. According to their literature, the multiplex trigger is intended to be plugged into a proximity sensor or other add-on device. The problem is, I also want to hook my trunk and hood pins up to the alarm. Right now, you can open the hood or trunk without setting off the alarm, as long as you do it carefully enough to not trigger the built-in shock sensor. Is it possible for me to rig this to the door trigger somehow?

[alanseijas]

Put your trunk and hood on the multiplex trigger input. Since you have a built in shock sensor, you won't need to use it for anything else.

[CornerHard]

Alright, to add more complications to this issue :) ....

What if I want my pager to trigger when the shock sensor goes off? The alarm brain doesn't have an output wire for its internal shock sensor, and if I bought an external proximity sensor to trigger the pager, I'd want it hooked to the alarm as well. Would it work properly if I hook the trunk pin, hood pin, and alarm trigger all together and wire them into the multiplex trigger? would I need diodes or something to separate them out? :confused: Basically, my pager has three zone triggers, and I'd like to use them all if possible.

[TalonESi]

If you wanted a shock "specific" zone on your external pager system then you would have to have (or add on) an external shock sensor so you have access to a shock sensor output wire.

When multiple triggers are connected to the same input diodes should be used.

Just don't use the 12v(+) constant wire on the multiplex connection to power more than one powered sensor (run it to a proper connection going to the battery). I have seen problems with that setting off flase alarms.

You might want to give each powered sensor a dedicated ground connection as well instead of using the 12v(-) constant wire on the multiplex for more than one powered sensor.

[TalonESi]

If ANYONE has ever found the Green/White(-) factory disarm wire under the driver's kick panel (or anywhere else), please let me know!

http://www.dsmsource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79208

[alanseijas]

It HAS to come through the door's wire boot into the car. It will show a ground signal when you turn the key in the door to unlock.

[TalonESi]

That's gonna be a bitch to tap then. You see though, that wire has to run to the alarm brain... where is the alarm brain?

[TalonESi]

Alright, I found the alarm disengage wire in the door harness and grounded it and all that, the factory alarm is now completely disabled, but I still would rather remove the brain... I don't like having unused parts in my car.

The wiring information should be updated!
The factory disarm wire is not under the driver side kick panel. The only green/white wires there are for the parking lights (+). It should be updated to the following before someone shorts their parking lights out.

Factory Disarm Green/White (-) Driver's Door Harness :rudolph:

This is only confirmed for 1995 models.

[tekky_98_TSi]

From your other post, and looking at the listings, I would guess that the database I got these from uses 'drivers kick panel' to refer to the general area by the drivers left foot... I'll see if nothing else to get a moderator to add that bit of 'warning' to the posts I made.... looking back however, alanseijas's post has the same information... I would say maybe took the 'kick panel' term a bit too literally maybe...

[TalonESi]

It's just that if you refer to the kick panel as in the left foot area, well that's where most every wire for the interior of the car runs by. I think that just to general to describe a wire location. In my opinion it should only say underneith driver side kick panel if it's actually under the removeable kick panel.

[tekky_98_TSi]

Originally posted by TalonESi
It's just that if you refer to the kick panel as in the left foot area, well that's where most every wire for the interior of the car runs by. I think that just to general to describe a wire location. In my opinion it should only say underneith driver side kick panel if it's actually under the removeable kick panel.

just going by what the information you posted and the information I found, before I posted those lists, I found it in 2 different locations just to double check for any invalidity (even compared to alan's that he posted for the 95 before I posted the 2g ones)

You have to also take into account, if the person probes the wire, they parking light wire is +, not -, and they should realize its not the right wire, in any case, if I can get enough time off work and good weather (snow started last night) I will try and check behind the panel and see whats truly behind it and whats not, would be better if someone else could, (60 hrs/week with 12hrs shifts kills me) but if not I will definately try, then have a moderator mod my lists if possible

[TalonESi]

I checked every wire behind the kick panel, both harnessess (one inside another). You'll only get a (+) signal when the parking lights are turned on. Someone might ground it thinking they have the alarm disarmed, go out for a drive, turn on the lights, and zap.

Also, I think the factory alarm is built into the ecu? is that correct?

[talontsi01]

I just got my reverse indiglo gauges off of ebay and was wondering about something. Where is the headlight wires that i am supposed to tap into?

I'm sure someone out there has done this and know where they are.

[tekky_98_TSi]

Originally posted by TalonESi
I checked every wire behind the kick panel, both harnessess (one inside another). You'll only get a (+) signal when the parking lights are turned on. Someone might ground it thinking they have the alarm disarmed, go out for a drive, turn on the lights, and zap.

Also, I think the factory alarm is built into the ecu? is that correct?

No, its a seperate control module, the ECU only controls the engine, not the tranny, not the alarm, not even ABS

[tekky_98_TSi]

Originally posted by talontsi01
I just got my reverse indiglo gauges off of ebay and was wondering about something. Where is the headlight wires that i am supposed to tap into?

I'm sure someone out there has done this and know where they are.

Dimmer switch would be a good place to tie, since that would allow for controlling the overall brightness (if they are even dim-able, never seen em first hand)... should have intructions with those things... if not... search, I know its been discussed on here before....

[James92TSi]

Originally posted by talontsi01
I just got my reverse indiglo gauges off of ebay and was wondering about something. Where is the headlight wires that i am supposed to tap into?

I'm sure someone out there has done this and know where they are. Headlight wires? When do your gauges turn on? When the parking lights are on... not headlights. You want the parking light +12v wire... which is green/white. You can find it at the cluster of switches on the instrument cluster bezel (dimmer, etc), or at the white plug on the drivers side of the console (cig lighter wiring), or a thousand other places in the dash and chassis wiring.

Karl - indiglo gauges come with their own dimmer knob. They have their own transformer, etc too. Dimming the +12v input won't dim the indiglos.. it will just cause them to shut off once the voltage gets too low. That's a moot point though, because our dimmer knobs don't dim the +12v feed to the dash lights. The dimmer works by adding resistance to the black/yel dash lighting ground wire (as you dim the switch, resistance to ground increases on the black/yel wire). The dash is wired in parallel.. each bulb is powered by the green/white +12v pk light circuit, and each bulb is grounded to the black/yel variable ground from the dimmer knob.

[v413nc3]

Ok, so I just ran into some interesting information thanks to my AEM EMS... and I figured I would post it. This is the pin location of the STOCK 2G HARNESS and what wires do what. I do not have a listing of the color, but the pin location and what it does...


there are 4 connectors, A B C D, as looked at from the end, A is the 26 pin plug that is the longest, followed by B which is the longer of the SHORT middle plugs, then C which is a 12 pin and finally D which is a 22 pin plug.

All numbers run sequentially from left to right accross the surface of the given plug with A being on the left and D on the right. So it would be

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

For connector A

Connector A (pins 1 - 26)
1 - Injector 1
2 - Injector 3
3 - Fuel Pressure Solenoid Valve
4 - Idle air control motor
5 - Idle air control motor
6 - EGR Solenoid Valve
7 -
8 - Fuel pump relay
9 - EVAP purge Solenoid Valve
10 - Ignition Power transistor
11 - Wastegate Solenoid valve
12 - MFI Relay switched power
13 - Ground
14 - Injector 2
15 - Injector 4
16 - Boost gauge
17 - Idle air control motor
18 - idle air control motor
19 - MAF reset switch
20 - Radiator and Condensor Fan relay HI LO2
21 - Radiator fan relay LO1
22 - A/C Compressor relay
23 - Ignition power transistor
24 -
25 - MFI Relay switched power
26 - Ground

For connector B

31 -
32 -
33 - Voltage regulator G (input)
34 -
35 -
36 - Check Engine Light
37 - PS Pressure Switch
38 - MFI Relay
39 -
40 -
41 - Voltage regulator FR
42 -
43 -
44 -
45 - Automatic compressor ECM
46 -

For connector C

51 -
52 - Ignition Timing Adjustment Connector
53 -
54 - O2 heater rear
55 - Evap vent solenoid valve (for 99 only)
56 - Data link connector
57 -
58 - Tachometer
59 -
60 - O2 heater front
61 - Fuel tank Differ. Pressure sensor (99 only)
62 - Data link connector

For connector D

71 - Starter signal
72 - Intake Air temp sensor
73 - Manifold Differential Pressure sensor (our version of a map)
74 -
75 - O2 Sensor Rear
76 - O2 sensor front
77 -
78 - Knock sensor
79 -
80 - Battery backup
81 - 5v Reference
82 - Ignition switch
83 - Engine coolant temp sensor
84 - Throttle position sensor
85 - Atmospheric Pressure Sensor
86 - Vehicle speed sensor
87 - Throttle position switch
88 - Camshaft position sensor
89 - Crankshaft Position sensor
90 - volume airflow sensor
91 - Ground
92 - Sensor ground



I hope this may help someone somewhere :) Feel free to email me if you want a full diagram.

[TalonESi]

Is that for a 2G turbo or N/A?

[tekky_98_TSi]

Originally posted by TalonESi
Is that for a 2G turbo or N/A?

his car is a 95 turbo awd if I recall

[edit] Which is also listed in his lil box on the left where 'car' is displayed. and I know for a fact thats the car he's putting the EMS in ;)

[v413nc3]

The wiring diagram is for a 2G Turbo. If you'll notice there are pinouts for the boost control solenoid and the boost gauge. Thanks for pointing out my car there Karl, btw, the engine came out today :)

[mitsu95rs]

I need the O2 sensor wire for a 95 N/T eclipse. If anyone has the digram please let me know.

[James92TSi]

You can probably find that at www.2gnt.com, if not by searching this site.

The info v413nc3 posted is for 2G turbo cars. That info is also available with an actual diagram on www.vfaq.com.

2G Turbo ECU diagram: http://www.vfaq.com/mods/ecu-harness-2G.html

VFAQ doesn't have anything about the 2G NT ECU though.

[tekky_98_TSi]

the rear o2 on 2g NT's are the same from what Ive seen, when I was playing with the o2 eliminator circuit I cut the harness out of a NT car for my eliminator and it was the same... not sure about the front one though.... or what model of NT it was.... it was a severely wrecked car...roof covered the trunk and such so no idea as to GS/ESi no badge or what.

[95stktrbo:(]

Which wire is for the turn signals?

[1GDSM2k3]

:scholar: If your installing an alarm on a 1G im just gonna give you a heads up. Everyone says to tap your parking lights with the green/white wire behind the fuse box. BAD IDEA.... some of the colors fade alittle due to age and there a million little green wires back there so its hard to distinguish. I actually knocked a terminal of my flasher relay so i was cursing you guys out for a little while. Anyways.... To make a long story short i found a better place to tap into the parking lights. On the radio wiring harness (car side) youll notice a green/white wire. Yes !!! this is the one and the same wire!! Hopefully this saves someone the hour of searching and swearing i went though:D .

[alanseijas]

Originally posted by 1GDSM2k3
some of the colors fade alittle due to age and there a million little green wires back there so its hard to distinguish. [/B]

THAT IS WHY WE TELL YOU TO TEST BEFORE ASSUMING!!!

[TalonESi]

Originally posted by 1GDSM2k3
:scholar: car side:rolleyes:

[1GDSM2k3]

Originally posted by TalonESi
:rolleyes:

Sorry to burst your bubble but not eveyone was born with a wrench in their hand. Just trying to help people from making some simple mistakes. :slam:

[1GDSM2k3]

Originally posted by alanseijas


THAT IS WHY WE TELL YOU TO TEST BEFORE ASSUMING!!!

The whole point of what i posted was so u wouldnt have to test all those damn green wires behind the fuse box to tap the parking lights .:eek:

[TalonESi]

You ALWAYS need to test.

[alanseijas]

These diagrams are merely hints as to where to go to find a wire. How would you know if some mechanic or hacker worked on your car, and changed or reversed something without TESTING? If I thought that people would just trust my diagrams and not test, I never would have started this thread. I stress TESTING even in my original post.

YOU MUST TEST EACH AND EVERY CONNECTION, OR YOU RISK BURNING SOMETHING IN YOUR CAR!!!:scholar:

[1GDSM2k3]

Oh man... your still not getting it... Of corse you have to test wires.... all i was pointing out was an easier place to tap into you parking lights than fliping upsidedown and trying to go through the maze of wires behind the fuse box. THATS IT!!!! EASY ENOUGH!! Next time read.

Thats why this board pisses me off at times .. you try to post something simple to make things easyer for other people and you get 3 people flaming the post. That didnt even take the time to read and see what the post was actually about. Im not attacking your post in anyway. I actually found the wiring info to be a good starting point.

[alanseijas]

Nobody here is just out to flame anyone. If you go back and read your posts, you say, " BAD IDEA.... some of the colors fade alittle due to age and there a million little green wires back there so its hard to distinguish. I actually knocked a terminal of my flasher relay so i was cursing you guys out for a little while." SO, you obviously didn't test properly or you never would have knocked out anything; AND if you're cursing US out for YOUR mistake, what do you expect?
Also, IMO, testing a couple of wires to find the parking light wire is much easier than removing the radio.

[tekky_98_TSi]

Originally posted by alanseijas
Nobody here is just out to flame anyone.

Also, IMO, testing a couple of wires to find the parking light wire is much easier than removing the radio.

true, and true

although you may be able to pick up the green/white between the dimmer switch and the radio easier... (just a counter argument to his location of getting it) <- probably the place I would try to find it, as I seem to recall seeing it between the 2 locations more often than not

[1GDSM2k3]

alanseijas, it was testing the wire that caused me to knock the terminal off the back of the parking relay. There isnt alot of room to work down there. And well accidents do happen. Especially on 13 year old cars. And Besides The deck on a 1G come out with only 4 screws. I just found it alot easyer. I just reread my 1st post and i see how it might have rubed you the wrong way. Thats wasnt my intend, sorry for the mix up.

[alanseijas]

:)

[911point8]

anyone know much about hooking the wires up to the engine..... im haveing some trouble..... i have a extra plug.. 4 pins.. purple caseing, i think it goes to the fuel pump. but im not sure so far it dont seem to matter, we changed the motor out in a 1.8 clipse and i couldent get it to start (timing problem) fixed that and when we take the jumpercables off the battery, the car dies..... bad alternator, i guess were going to check the wires on that..... and someone told me that you gotta have a ground wire from the block of the motor to the frame of the car..... im not sure if we hooked that up or not, but is this vital?

[TalonESi]

Yes, you should have a nice size wire from the block to the frame, if you problem is w/ not having a good enough ground this will fix it.

[911point8]

there is a ground installed..... still cant get it to turn over..... i need the firing order for the distributor.... anyone know where i can get this?

[James92TSi]

If you're having a problem, SEARCH, then start a new thread if you can't find the answer or another thread dealing with your problem.

This thread is getting cluttered up with people posting about their problems instead of "DSM Wiring Information." It's getting to where we'll probably have to take this thread and clean it up some, because it's getting off-track. It's supposed to be a source of wiring info ONLY.

As for your question... the distributor firing order is in the shop manual... even the cheap $10 shop manuals. 1-3-4-2 going clockwise around the distributor, starting at #1. Cylinders are 1-2-3-4 starting at the timing belt side of the motor (drivers side of the car).

[911point8]

i have a haynes manual! cant find the fireing order in that..... sorry about the posts!! anyone know where i can find a diagram that shows what wires go to where from the wireing harness?

[AWDturbo96]

Hey I am trying to vent my BOV into the atmosphere. I went down to the speed shop and one of their techs told me there is a way to trick the ECU into thinking that the air is still coming into the intake so it doesn't run like crap by splicing two wires together. He said it was called the overload return sensor wire or something of that nature. So if you know anything about that let me know.

[CNLaserRST]

I just wanted to thank everyone for this great post. Possibly the most overall helpful post i a long time. Really helped with my CD Changer install. It would be great if someone could put it together in large singular post with every year's little nuance and difference.

-Chris:hail: :rockon:

[alanseijas]

There really aren't that many differences from what you've read here. As always, if anyone is having a specific wiring problem; just ask. :)

[tekky_98_TSi]

Originally posted by CNLaserRST
I just wanted to thank everyone for this great post. Possibly the most overall helpful post i a long time. Really helped with my CD Changer install. It would be great if someone could put it together in large singular post with every year's little nuance and difference.

-Chris:hail: :rockon:

if you look about halfway down the 2nd page (I believe thats where I left them) I posted each of the identical years wiring diagrams under posts titled with the year ranges that applied to those diagrams... granted they arent in the easiest place to find... they are grouped together also... and Alan is right (by the way heya Alan been awhile since I was here :)) there arent many differences, just some slight color variations on the door locks or windows if I recall...

[NIX_92_Tsi_AWD]

ok i have a question for all the guru's:

I need to disable my stock alarm. I have a 1990 talon awd. you say that it is a green and white wire, then some one says its not. then it says its in the kick panel and someone says its not. so....

can anyone on this board tell me where i can find the actual wire i need to disable my alarm? it goes off randomly. also, where is the aproximate location? (not just kickpanel). this would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!! i have searched and searched but no one comes out and says it. maybe i have looked over something but i just cant find it!

THANK YOU ALL SOO MUCH, I NEED TO FIND THIS OUT!!!

[NIX_92_Tsi_AWD]

can anyone answer my question? i just need alittle help here!

[James92TSi]

All you need to do is bend the bracket for the hood pin switch so that the plunger on the switch gets pressed down fully when the hood is closed. That will stop your false alarm problems.

There is no factory disarm wire on a 1G. If you want to disable the factory alarm, you have to remove the theft alarm relay from the fuse/relay panel by the clutch pedal.

[Sean485]

I'm surprised this hasn't been asked before but why not just put up the electrical manuals from the DSM CD? I've got the CD and i'd be willing to share them since I wind up using the pictures from the manual when I reply to alot of threads here anyway.

I don't have anywhere to host them though and they are fairly large (around 50 megs total) but they are very useful so if anyone could host it then we could put those up and i'm sure that would really help alot of people...

[acidikjuice]

i like this page:

Triangle Tuners (http://www.triangletuners.com/howto/frameit.php?url=http://www.ecanfix.com/users/manualcd/gift/dsm/index.html)

Good stuff!

[ZyouS]

parking lights: green/white positive in driver's kick panel

does anyone know where the (-)12v parking light wire is located. Or how to convert the +12v?

[alanseijas]

Just use a relay...zzzz

[Phoenix_08]

how about a ECM wiring diagram or list for a 1g turbo ECM?

[spyderturbo007]

how about a ECM wiring diagram or list for a 1g turbo ECM?

One post per question please.

[AWDsome]

Thanks for the great info, BUMP!